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You've had them, I've had them and hopefully you delete them. I'm talking about those scamming letters from some African dictatorship country pleading for assistance to liberate Millions of dollars from the country. What do you get from it - a percentage (normally about 10%) of the funds. Sounds too good to be true ? Well it is - wake up and smell the coffee.
This one comes to me from someone who shall remain nameless - lets call her M. M was someone who had the intelligence to query when something didn't sound quite right. Having heard her story and how far it had taken her down the path of potentially losing money had to take this one just to show that it was all indeed a scam but of course with no risk to M. M - forwarded me the original email that she had been sent out of the blue as well as a couple of follow up emails showing the beginning of the path of destruction. I'll start from the beginning replying just to his email address - remember he hasn't sent me the email - I've just replied to his note that he sent M. Wouldn't you think that someone whose dealing with $8.5M would just be a little careful ? It appears not... |
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Original note from M. DEAR FRIES |
I don't know if M's last name is Fries - I doubt it very much... Just a blanket email out to everyone.. |
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Chris,
Sorry for not responding sooner, I’ve been away on vacation and only just picked up your email. I’d certainly like to help you out but am unsure what exactly I’m supposed to do for you. I can be reached on this email, and can also be reached on +44 xxxxxxxx. I think this number is correct for the UK. Hear from your shortly..
Regards Lister |
I've taken on Lister Rimmers name firstly because our last guide dog was called Lister (great name, even better dog) and Rimmer seems to match it from the Red Dwarf TV series. | ||||
Sunday 15th Aug Dear Lister, |
Well it seems he doesn't care if my last name is or is not Fries...
A resume - ooo have to dream one up..
Well he's in Lagos, even got a Nigerian Mobile number.. |
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Sunday 15th August.. Chris,
By chance I’m picking up my works email today and your email.
Due to the nature of confidentiality I’d like to keep this away from my works email address so will send you an email from my personal account so we can communicate securely as I use a secure email service which encrypts the email prior to sending. You may want to consider using it as it’s a great service – and you get free webspace and unlimited storage on their servers.
To answer your request – my Name is Lister Rimmer, I’m 41, married with one child. My address is 43 Kingsway Avenue, London. WC2A 3EB. What kind of personal information do you need from me in a resume. I don’t have one typed up as I’m currently not considering changing jobs.
I will not talk to anyone regarding this… I await your reply…
Regards Lister |
You'll see the use of this later - hopefully. |
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I JUST CALLED IT WAS THROUGH ,BUT WAS ON VOICE MAIL, I COULDNT SAY ANYTHING. IT WOULD BE WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY OR CALL 234-8xxxxxxxxxx |
Sunday evening and I get an voicemail message from him, saying to call him back - funnily enough exactly what he said in his email.
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Monday 16th August Chris,
Thanks for your email, it looks like you called on Sunday which would explain why I couldn’t answer – I was away for the weekend only briefly returning home to collect some things. I’ll try and give you a call tonight – I’m currently at work so can’t use their telephone to make the call – I’ll try and call you tonight – what’s the time difference between us ? I don’t want to call you during the middle of the night. !
I’d also recommend that you consider using www.xxxxxxxxxx for security. It works great but you need a referrer code to have an account setup on it due to it’s popularity. If you wish – you can use mine - Referrer code – xxxx. I know that they’ve been swamped with requests due to the popularity of the service but it works great.
Hopefully talk to you tonight….
Regards Lister |
More of this hopefully later... |
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Monday evening : A. FULL INFORMATION OF THE DECEASED B. FULL BANKING INFORMATION OF THE DECEASED : I WILL PROVIDE THE DEATH CERTIFICATE AND THE CERTIFICATE OF DEPOSIT SOONEST,AFTER I SCAN THE CERTIFICATES. |
So he's changed his name from Hens Fries to Hens Rimmer has he - oh yes, that will please the bank manager.
That expressway is such a dangerous place.
Look at all that dosh in the bank account - must be real |
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Chris, Thank my cotton socks that you’ve responded. You haven’t answered my original question about the timezones between us. I’m afraid that if I call you at a strange time of the day that you’ll be offended not having spoke to you before. Thank you for your details about the deceased, do you have any more information on how he died – I know it says car accident but what was the cause of death ? I’m curious this way. What exactly is that you want me to do with this information and the documents that you’ll send me. My eyesight gets strained so please send them as large as you can to stop me straining my eyes. I normally have to type these notes in font size 20 then convert it to 10 or 12 so others can read it easily so the larger and sharper the image the better. Looking forward to hearing from you. Did you get signed up with xxxxxx ? Regards |
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| DEAR LISTER RIMMER ,
I WOULD WANT YOU TO APPLY TO THE BANK IMMEDIATELY FOR THE TRANSACTION
TIO GET STARTED IMMEDIATELY PLEASE DO THAT AS SOON AS YOU DO THAT CALL
234-8xxxxxxxxxxx. TO THE MANAGING DIRECTOR, Dear Sir, I hereby apply for the inheritance of my late uncles deposit ,with REFERENCE
CODE BA0581380660001. belonging to late Engineer HENS RIMMER,who died
in a gastly motor accident a on the 10th of may 2000. I am the next of
kin to above aforementioned name and the beneficiary of the project fund
which account number is stated. FIRST NAME.............. LAST NAME................ TEL NO................. FAX NO................. ADDRESS NO.................. MAILING ADDRESS.............. Yours faithfully,
APPLY TO THE BANK VIA EMAIL ADDRESS : (xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx )
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He would want me to apply immediately wouldn't he. The sooner I apply, the sooner he'll get his money..
If you note the name - it's now Hens Potter.. Obviously a lot of scams going on.. |
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Tuesday evening TO THE MANAGING DIRECTOR,
Dear Sir,
I hereby apply for the inheritance of my late uncles deposit ,with
REFERENCE CODE BA0581380660001. belonging to late Engineer HENS RIMMER,who
died in a gastly motor accident a on the 10th of may 2000. I am the next
of kin to above aforementioned name and the beneficiary of the project
fund which account number is stated.
LAST NAME................ Rimmer TEL NO................. +44 xxxxxxxxxx FAX NO................. Not available ADDRESS NO.................. 43 Kingsway Avenue, London. WC2A 3EB MAILING ADDRESS..............As above Yours faithfully, L. Rimmer Lister Rimmer |
So I duly fill it in and send it to the bank..leaving the obvious mistake of Potter there. | ||||
Wednesday.. ATTENTION;LISTER RIMMER
=============== ATTN. MR RIMMER They've attached an HTML file which I print off, fill in and send back
to them along with my passport. |
Ooo two emails from the bank.. Of which they've conviently changed my deceased friends name to be Hen Potter Rimmer |
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Wednesday evening Bello, Firstly is there any chance you can type in lower case characters – the UPPER case typing is doing my head in and giving me a migrane headache, so much so that I had to go and sit down for about twenty minutes after reading your email. Stop it – it’s not smart and it’s not what I’d expect from a bank. In response to your requests – I’ve attached my passport scanned in as requested, I’ve also attached a form sent out by your bank legal department. Why send out two emails when one will do ? Can’t your bank get things organized. Considering this is my first communication and correspondence with your may I tell you so far I’m not impressed with your level of standard. For example, I had some queries on the form and do I have a telephone number to contact the bank on – NO – another example of the lack of customer service so far from Standard trust. I hope for your sake the service improves.
Regards
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I hate people who type in UPPER case all the time. Idiots.
Do you think the uniform suits me ? |
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Thurs 19th August
Sorry for the delay to the response to your mail i have been out of office. ================= Sorry for the delay in response to your letter i have
been out of office. |
and then twenty minutes later.. The text came in that way.. |
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STANDARDTRUSTBANK PLC,
WE JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU THAT WE RECEIVED YOUR MAIL.YOUR INFORMATION
HAS BEEN SCRUTINIZED ORDERLY AND HAS GONE THROUGH THE NORMAL BANKING INVESTIGATION.
WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE INFOMATION YOU PROVIDED NOW SATIFIED THAT YOU
ARE THE TRUE NEXT OF KIN. BELOW ARE THE DOCUMENTS AND YOUR LATE COUSINS ATTORNEYS FULL NAME,CONTACT ADDRESS AND E-MAIL ADDRESS
DR BELLO AHMED |
Oh oh, the bank is still typing in upper case characters... I feel a reprimand coming on...
There is no email address or contact details attached below. |
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Saturday Morning Bello, Firstly thank you for you email which has only gone and clouded what I thought would be a straight forward process of you giving me the money. Secondly, your banks response to it’s potential customers is abysmal – I’m convinved I asked you not to send me any more emails typed fully in upper case as it gives me a severe migrane. Stop it. Look at your keyboard, theres a key on the left marked CAPS LOCK. Press it – and now type something – you’ll find amazingly enough that the letters change into lower case. Use that instead. I expect more from a bank than just a place to put my hard earned money, I expect them to listen to me and adapt as required when customers are not happy about something. Unless of course you’re just a run of the mill blood sucking leech of a bank ? Thirdly – in your email, you mention contact details for an attorney however your incompetence has meant that you’ve forgotten to include them. Please provide them by return (remember in lower case !!) I query the administration fees that are involved in this. You’re a bank, you make your money on the pitiful interest that you give your customers. I’d like to know what interest this account is currently making. I’ve never worked with a bank that has charged me “administration fees” – how do I know that you’re an efficient bank and that these fees are correct. Sounds like just another way to get more money from the customers (remember my comment about blood sucking leeches ?) Please clarify exactly what these fees are for and why this amount cannot be deducted from the interest on the account. I look forward to hearing your answers to the above questions. Remember - lower case.. Regards |
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Saturday Morning I called you number it was not going through was the problem . please
could you call me? |
Well he's quick at responding. |
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Saturday Morning Chris, Thank you for your email - I picked up your messages you left on the answering machines - we've had a busy social life and hence have been out and about all the time - only returning home to sleep. I've been in contact with the bank and they've sent me this : WE JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU THAT WE RECEIVED YOUR MAIL.YOUR INFORMATION
HAS BEEN SCRUTINIZED ORDERLY AND HAS GONE THROUGH THE NORMAL BANKING INVESTIGATION.
WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE INFOMATION YOU PROVIDED NOW SATIFIED THAT YOU
ARE THE TRUE NEXT OF KIN. BELOW ARE THE DOCUMENTS AND YOUR LATE COUSINS ATTORNEYS FULL NAME,CONTACT ADDRESS AND E-MAIL ADDRESS
As you can see the documents you've promised are key in this transaction.
I'm a bit wary about the administration fee that they mention, infact the banks approach has been somewhat shoddy. They never seem to listen to things that their customer is telling them. I'll happily pay the fee but am wary and need to have my confidence in this transaction lifted before proceeding. I tried to call you this morning but I got a message saying that 'were unable to reach the number your calling'. I'm out today with our local football team all weekend so won't be in to receive any calls. I realized that I've never actually spoken to you, let alone know what you look like. So I don't know you from Jack. I realize that I've sent my passport photo so you know what I look like. Can you send me a photo of yourself so I know who I'm dealing with. Just to prove who I'm dealing with can you get a photograph taken with you holdling our football teams logo - This will give me the confidence that all is well. We've used this logo elsewhere so it should print off onto an A4 sheet easily. I look forward to your picture and the death certificate. Thanks in advance.. |
I've used the logo of a privateers Rally Team that I'm helping out in October. Have a look... Team Saluki
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Monday 23rd August Bello,
I thought I would have heard from you today but alas no email. I was thinking about coming to Nigeria to get this all sorted out – do you think that would be a wise decision. I’ve got next week off on holiday so if I travel at the weekend I can be there on Monday morning to conclude the business – your comments would be appreciated.
Regards Lister
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Chasing up the bank...
I'm actually going to Lagos on Sunday on business so thought I might try an have some fun with them whilst I was there. |
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Tues 24th August STANDARDTRUSTBANK PLC,
Ahmed Bello |
Insults, they call that insults.. |
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STANDARDTRUSTBANK PLC, DEAR RIMMER,
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But also at the same time I get one that is all in upper case... They've obviously figured out where the convert function is in their word processor software is. Well done boys.. |
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Ahmed,
Thank you for your email : I do not understand what you mean by harassment – I’ve been civil in all my communications requesting a service from the bank, I pointed out a couple of things that irritated me, once of which I see you’ve managed to find the CAPS LOCK key. It certainly makes reading the emails easier.
You’ve still forgotten to attached my cousins attorneys details as specified in your earlier email. Please advise soonest.
I’ve checked with British Airways and I can get a flight for a reasonable price to Lagos this Sunday evening arriving Monday morning do you think this would be worthwhile to clear the transaction up. I can bring the fee and also be prepared for any other expenses that would be associated with the transaction. Can you advise what other fees may be payable.
Thanks in advance – Lister |
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Wednesday 25th August DEAR RIMMER
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I'm never available on that number. |
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Wed 25th August DEAR RIMMER,
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Is it just me, or does this death certificate look like a three year old has written it with their first use of a Biro pen ?
Looks like they don't which day he died on - a closer inspection of the date reveals that underneath the 10th, is the 12th..
Nice stamp though..! |
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Wed 25th August
Find enclosed the death certificate as requested. My attorney has gone to the federal high court Abuja for the other documents. I will be arranging the payment today and will send an email once complete.
Regards Lister
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Chris, Thanks for that - I've forwarded to the bank and advised I'll be making payment shortly. We spoke on the phone yesterday about photos of each other and I
realized that I've not got a photograph of you. I'm out with a local football
club for the next couple of days and would like you do to the following
as it would both satisfy me and also please the under 11 football team
that I'm away with. Can you send a photograph of you holding the team
logo - I did send this previously but think it may have got lost when
your email was playing up. Thanks in advance. |
I'm still trying to get Mr Muppet to hold my Team Saluki sign |
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Thursday 26th August I WANT TO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT.IT SEEMS TO ME YOU ARE ALWAYS BUSY.THERE IS NEVER A TIME I CALLED AND GOT YOU ON THE PHONE ,ANY CALL I MAKE THE VOICE MAIL IS ALWAYS ON . I AM IN RECEIPT OF YOUR MAIL I WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH MY WIFE WHEN AM BACK FROM ABUJA. I COULD NOT DO THAT YESTERDAY ,DUE TO MY LATE ARRIVAL TO ABUJA. TODAY BEING THURSDAY WE ARE OBSERVING A PUBLIC HOLIDAY.. |
oh dear oh dear... |
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Friday 27th August Chris, Apologies for not being there whilst you called. I’m generally out and about on the factory floor away from my desk which makes contacting me a question of chance if I happen to be by my desk.
Whilst on the voice mail – is there any chance you can speak clearer – as I don’t know if you are talking with the phone in your mouth but I think the distortion sounds like it is. Perhaps the handset needs to be slightly further away from your mouth. The message sounds like it’s garbage – the only bit I did manage to get was Chris David at the end.
I had some discussions with the bank and they suggested that coming to Nigeria would be a good idea next week – would this work for you ?
I’ll try to call you this afternoon.
Regards Lister |
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It's at this point that I had to go away for a couple of weeks to various places on Business - including Lagos - home of the scams. Access to email was limited and I didn't really have time to pursue this which is a pity so I had to make an effort upon my return to chase them up. |
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28/08.04 DEAR RIMMER, |
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30th August Dear Rimmer,
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Well he looks a happy camper - not. Looks like the picture is taken in his church. Not exactly a great picture though. |
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Chris,
Thank you for your note, and the picture – it’s a little grainy but I’ll show it to the team today and I’m sure they’ll be over the moon with it. Is that your church that you’re in ? I never knew you were a religious person. Have you had any joy in scanning the documents…
Regards Lister |
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| Dear Rimmer, I sent my clerk to submitt the affidavit and the letter of administrationyesterday,as stated in my mail.My clerk after returning,told me that the bank rejected the submission .The bank was insisting on you doing the submission,as the beneficiary abroad.I will get the documents scanned,which you are to submitt to the bank. Barrister Chris David. |
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14th September Hello, |
This is the problem of trying to keep this going whilst travelling about... |
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16th September Chris, My god, its been ages since I’ve heard from you – I thought something had happened to you. I’ve been trying to call you but it seems international calls from our offices are having problems and not being routed correctly or something like that the engineers had told us. They say it’s fixed not and it does take the call longer to go through but still no connection to your phone. I was concerned for you since you’ve not been incontact – I thought I had done something to offend you. Can we schedule a time say tomorrow for me to call you. The last I heard from the bank was that It would be worthwhile if I traveled to Nigeria to complete the transaction, you say this was not a good idea. Which one do you suggest I should proceed with ? Perhaps we can talk about it tomorrow.. Thanks in advance.. May god go with you..
Lister |
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| Ahmed,
Can you advise on the status of this transfer – I haven’t heard anything recently and wonder what you’re waiting on.
Thanks in advance..
Lister |
So I do as he say's and write to the bank asking for a status update. I know what it will be - you haven't paid the transfer fee so we haven't moved. We'll see.. | ||||
Mr.Lister Try to give me a call today.Please note that you are to notify me on
whatever the bank instructs you to do,so as to avoid any mistake. Link to Affadivit letter (155Kb)
Dear Rimmer,
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I also get a second note from him detailing..
I do love the way the round official stamp seal is actually overlayed on the name. Images are square unless they've been edited...If only they had not cut and pasted the document together.. |
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16th September Ahmed,
Can you advise on the status of this transfer – I haven’t heard anything recently and wonder what you’re waiting on.
Thanks in advance..
Lister |
A chase up note to the bank.. |
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20th September 2004 Sir, This are to be submitted to the bank for the transfer to commence. Thanks |
I've got the two out of three, looks like I need to start involving Western Union. |
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Chris,
I’ve just tried to call both you and the bank without success – I don’t know if there is a problem on the international links.. I was trying to chase the bank to see what the status of the transfer is as the last communication I heard from them was the 24th of August. Do you know if the banks in Nigeria are normally this slow..
Regards Lister |
A couple of days away on business does not help keep this thing going... | ||||
| Dear Rimmer,
I want to Know the Status of the transaction.Still the same? Barrister Chris |
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| Chris,
Sorry – I had to go away for a couple of days only returning late last night. I contacted the bank and they said that they were waiting on three things.. SWORN AFFIDAFIT OF CLAIM I’ve now got the first two and this morning I’ve been down to my bank to get the $700 from the foreign currency desk. I hope to get to a Western Union office this afternoon – the nearest one is about 10 miles away. They want it transferred by western union. I’ve never used them before and prefer bank transfers so I don’t know what to expect.
I’ll let you know
Regards Lister |
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24th September Chris,
I’ve just sent them the documents and have as mentioned earlier transferred the money to Western union – a lot of form filling but it’s been done. I await their reply.. Regards Lister |
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Friday 24 September 14:26 Ahmed,
Find attached the affidavit, and letter of administration as requested..
I’ve also visited the Western Union and transferred the $700 for the treasurer - OBINNA RICHARD PETERS. They say it will be there within minutes.
Please let me know when you receive funds. Please advise the next steps.
Regards Lister |
I also sent this to the banks email address....
The first thing they're going to ask for is the questions and trace number that Western Union provide you with... I wonder how long it will be before they ask for it.. |
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Friday 19:49 Sir, The bank will require the following information below to receive the money 1) The text question 2) The answer 3) The Money Transfer Control Number (MTCN) These are the details needed to receive the money Best Regards, |
Well it didn't take them long to respond...Five and a half hours...
Since it's the weekend I'll leave them waiting till Monday... |
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Friday 24th September Ahmed,
Find attached the affidavit, and letter of administration as requested..
I’ve also visited the Western Union and transferred the $700 for the treasurer - OBINNA RICHARD PETERS. They say it will be there within minutes.
Please let me know when you receive funds. Please advise the next steps.
Regards Lister |
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| Sir, What do take us for? Fools? I have sent your name and the treasurer's name to the Western Union Control manager of our bank to check if the fees were been sent. And after all search without text question and control number, we found out that there was no money sent to the Treasurer. Regards, |
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| Ahmed,
Having just returned from a lovely long weekend away to find your two notes which I cannot understand ? I transferred the money as requested - Please provide me with the Control Managers name and number and I’ll contact them and get this cleared up. I await an urgent reply. Regards Lister.. |
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| Sir, We are not commencing on the transfer proccess until this fee is paid. The treasurers phone number is 234-8xxxxxxx.His name is Mr. Peters Richards Obinna. Best Regards, |
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| Ahmed,
I’ve just tried call him, I keep getting busy signal.
I don’t like your manner and approach of calling one of your customers that they are playing you like a fool– I’ve a receipt in my wallet that says I transferred the money so my take is that I’ll have an apology from you before I give you the three items that you asked for.
I hate being treated this way by banks, remember I had the same issues with the banks attitude when we started this transaction – very unsatisfactory.
Awaiting your reply Lister |
I couldn't be bother calling him as I busy getting ready for the Team Saluki event |
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| Sir, We are sorry for the attitude. It was due to the undue stress we undergo confirming your payment. The bank treasurer needs the following information to get the money. 1) The test question 2) The answer 3) The money transfer control number (MTCN) Also remember that western union expiration date is five days. We will like you to scan the receipt as evidence of payment. Dr Ahmed Bello |
ooo an Apology of sorts.. | ||||
| Ahmed,
I can’t understand your explanation for the rudeness I experienced from you. You accepted that the information you had to hand was correct and accused me of being a liar – something I have and never will be. I’ve no idea what stress you’re on about – if you’ve got stress it must be self inflicted due to the manner in which you treat your customers.
On a different matter – I was looking for your banks website and can’t seem to locate it. I’ve tried various combination of standard trust bank but all have failed to come up with a bank website. Having seen some of the other websites and some mentions of standard trust I’m worried that all may not be what it seems. Please put my mind at rest and let me have your banks website address so I can confirm that all is well.
Regards Lister |
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| Sir, I don't know what you mean by you searching for our website and could not get to any, while others come to bank with us through internet. Sorry If this will offend you, I must say that I have not had any case similar to yours since my years in this position. I am sending you our website address which is www.standardtrust.com. I hope with this you are satisfied. Ahmed Bello |
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| Ahmed,
Thank you for the website. I notice that it has a warning on there which request you to contact an email address for confirmation.
No disrespect to you – but I’ve sent off a note asking for confirmation who you are. If I get a note back from them I’ll happily provide the details you require.
Please accept my apologies for this small delay.
Regards Lister |
The bank looks legit enough, I've not sent off a note but have a look yourself. Looks valid enough...
It's at this point that it goes all quiet from their end... |
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2nd October 2004 Ahmed, I’ve not yet had a response from the enquiries email I sent. Can you chase that section of the bank to respond to request for confirmation that you are who you say you are.. Thanks |
I wonder if he's keen enough to get his hands on the money that he'll send an email himself... |
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2nd October 2004 Chris, I’m still in discussions with the bank. I’ve asked them
to verify who they are but I’ve not had a response from them. This
is a copy of the letter I’ve Hope all is well.. Regards Dear Sir / Madam, Can you provide confirmation of who he is. By the way – I’ve found his attitude to be not very customer focused.. Thanks in advance…
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I've sent him this to see if the two of them will try and send a dummy email saying all is well and apologising for his attitude.. I wonder... |
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Well I'm amazed - he didn't bite and it's went all quite from both parties...
I fire off a note to Ahmed at "the bank" to see if he'll respond... Ahmed, I got response from the bank – it seems you are out to scam me of money in something called a 419 Fraud. Why would you do such a thing.. I have done nothing to you yet you wish to take my hard earned money for yourself. Lister
If I get a response I'll post it here - I'll give them a couple of days
then I'll post the email addys and telephone numbers for you to have fun
yourself... |
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